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Old Dec 07, 2006, 06:50 AM // 06:50   #81
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I don't think the update was targetted at LB farming, I think it was more a bugfix. The fact that Heroes were excluded from environmental effects never made sense in the first place, really.

To be honest, I doubt this will really make a difference to the farm. A few people with gaze should be able to chew through the Margonites easily.
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59   #82
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Much like running and power-leveling, although they annoy me I've come to terms with it as a way that people will play the game. AFKing the lightbringer is basically the same, I would never do it myself but I'm not going to care if someone else is doing it. The game was beatable without it and the skills, and if the elite area demands the title then I'll work towards maxing it in my own manner.

As mentioned, the AFKing was changed three different times before it was completely killed off. Reminds me of griffin farming in Prophet's Path, first the AI change slowed it down then Anet just completely removed it from the game. Oh well, we have to enjoy what is given to us before it's deemed worthy of an overhaul.
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52   #83
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"This will never happen, cause there are people who grinded their rank 9 together. "

O_O how do you do such a task that is BRAIN CELL KILLING?!
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13   #84
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Well, if doing anything repeatedly afk isn't considered exploiting, then why doesn't this game have macros and why does Anet ban bots?

As for the "grinding" of LB rank, I beg to differ with those that say LB rank isn't necessary (I smell an afker) or impacting. First, any mission or quest that has monsters affected by LB was designed, and is impacted, by LB rank.

Second, I didn't have to "grind" to get my Protector of Tyria title but I have little doubt that getting masters in missions where monsters are impacted by LB, LB rank is a "necessity".

Third, put out a weapon that has permenant +40% damage and +8 damage reduction and then tell me it doesn't affect killing and staying alive. For those that say it doesn't, why do you bother to carry a weapon at all? Just use your skill bar, that should be sufficient. No, the weapon you carry isn't everything, neither are just your skills.

Finally, Anet should quit worrying about exploiters altogether. All they seem to have done is create a class of "elitist" and made the overall game more frustrating and less fun for the average player. Sure, this game is super simple if you visit forums like this to learn how to circumvent practically anything. However, it would behoove Anet to remember that the great masses of players just play to have fun, not live GW for "bragging rights".
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32   #85
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Effects to work as stated evenly?
Except for monsters who get to ignore them?
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59   #86
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There is a truism in all of these sorts of games: Exploit early, exploit often.

While it would be nice to imagine that game devs roll back all ill gotten gains after they fix any abuseable bug, this basically, never ever happens in these games unless the effect on the economy is so large that it basically destroys the entire game.
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43   #87
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Well, if doing anything repeatedly afk isn't considered exploiting, then why doesn't this game have macros and why does Anet ban bots?

As for the "grinding" of LB rank, I beg to differ with those that say LB rank isn't necessary (I smell an afker) or impacting. First, any mission or quest that has monsters affected by LB was designed, and is impacted, by LB rank.

Second, I didn't have to "grind" to get my Protector of Tyria title but I have little doubt that getting masters in missions where monsters are impacted by LB, LB rank is a "necessity".

Third, put out a weapon that has permenant +40% damage and +8 damage reduction and then tell me it doesn't affect killing and staying alive. For those that say it doesn't, why do you bother to carry a weapon at all? Just use your skill bar, that should be sufficient. No, the weapon you carry isn't everything, neither are just your skills.

Finally, Anet should quit worrying about exploiters altogether. All they seem to have done is create a class of "elitist" and made the overall game more frustrating and less fun for the average player. Sure, this game is super simple if you visit forums like this to learn how to circumvent practically anything. However, it would behoove Anet to remember that the great masses of players just play to have fun, not live GW for "bragging rights".
Pro-monk, once again you hit the nail on the head.

I don't know what the AFK trick is, but I did use the trick of letting the monsters rez each other in order for me to squeeze a few more LB points out of them. I did this in the Forum Highlands (i think) where the Flame and Diamond Jihn patrol with those four-legged fire monsters. The fire monsters seem to each have a Rez Sig on them so I would kill one and let it be rezd then target the monster who did the Rezing.

I used this to reach LB rank 3, which I am currently still at. I mean seriously, how am I supposed to gain thousands of LB points when monsters only give you 2 and the rare quests that reward you with LB points only give you 10??
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44   #88
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I'd have to agree with the last statement. I'd simply assumed before DoA came out, that it would be like Kourna -> Vabbi, and you'd go from having 2-point LB hunts to having 4-point LB hunts available in DoA. I'm rather sad that's not the case. Sure, I wouldn't use DoA to farm, but it'd be a nice addition.
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